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[lofty]

Interesting views, Justin. Glad to hear you've recovered and doing well in the SG scene. However, there is a BIG MISCONCEPTION that SG girls don't want money. Both SG and TG involve money. You're misleading a lot of people into thinking that SG girls are not materialistic... unless they live in Pulau Ubin all their lives, you will soon find SG girls even more brand conscious than TG.

TG can buy a 400 baht cocktail dress from a roadside stall and wear out to club. SG "must at least Mango or Zara" to meet friends. I was once at a bazaar and saw some reasonable clothes but my SG female friend commented:" Eeeee, only foreigners buy cheap stuff like that". This is from a girl who lives in HDB earning 2.5k a month as an office admin.

Break-up with TG. Wallet suffer but can earn back. Break up with SG girl after marrying, women's charter and lawyers will suck you dry to your last cent paying settlement fees etc. How many young SG girls hang around old men? Go to Attica or any country club on Sunday and you can see.

Just because you and her can converse in English doesnt ensure anything, including better chances. A lot of TG cheat local guys here but dont assume SG are any better. They're more proud, more expensive (in the long run) and worse off in the looks and bed department. 'Equality" means you end up being laughed on STOMP when someone uploads a photo of you carrying her groceries and handbags while she shops.

TG or SG girl. Girls are girls. It's important to know which ones are sincere, but profiling by nationality gets you nowhere. This forum shoulldn't be about qutting TG scene and settling down to SG girl. That's very defeatist and indirectly saying everyone loses in the end. U can be emerge from this scene successfully, if you try hard enough to make your relationship work. Everyone goes through a string of bad girls before finding one that is good to you.

[SuperButterfly]

the tgs know how to touch our hearts, always remind yourself to put minimal feelings into play. always, nothing more than a friend or best, fb.
many times we remind ourselves before we enter the club but once we enter, our heart becomes vulnerable, its inevitable sometimes i have to agree.
but always remind ourselves right after the night or next morning, its just for fun. no feelings. dont wait till after you patronize the girl a few times already then it will be too damn late.
burn in wallet still ok, burn in heart is crazy. might take 1 month or 1 year to recover.

[Justin_Teo]

Interesting views, Justin. Glad to hear you've recovered and doing well in the SG scene. However, there is a BIG MISCONCEPTION that SG girls don't want money. Both SG and TG involve money. You're misleading a lot of people into thinking that SG girls are not materialistic... unless they live in Pulau Ubin all their lives, you will soon find SG girls even more brand conscious than TG.

TG can buy a 400 baht cocktail dress from a roadside stall and wear out to club. SG "must at least Mango or Zara" to meet friends. I was once at a bazaar and saw some reasonable clothes but my SG female friend commented:" Eeeee, only foreigners buy cheap stuff like that". This is from a girl who lives in HDB earning 2.5k a month as an office admin.

Break-up with TG. Wallet suffer but can earn back. Break up with SG girl after marrying, women's charter and lawyers will suck you dry to your last cent paying settlement fees etc. How many young SG girls hang around old men? Go to Attica or any country club on Sunday and you can see.

Just because you and her can converse in English doesnt ensure anything, including better chances. A lot of TG cheat local guys here but dont assume SG are any better. They're more proud, more expensive (in the long run) and worse off in the looks and bed department. 'Equality" means you end up being laughed on STOMP when someone uploads a photo of you carrying her groceries and handbags while she shops.

TG or SG girl. Girls are girls. It's important to know which ones are sincere, but profiling by nationality gets you nowhere. This forum shoulldn't be about qutting TG scene and settling down to SG girl. That's very defeatist and indirectly saying everyone loses in the end. U can be emerge from this scene successfully, if you try hard enough to make your relationship work. Everyone goes through a string of bad girls before finding one that is good to you.

Absolutely, lofty. I'm in complete agreement with most, if not all, of your points.

Where I'm coming from attempts to tackle more of a "working lady" issue than a nationalistic one. Singapore girls ARE materialistic. Thai girls ARE materialistic. I guess as men we're all ass-f__ked as far as their financial expectations are concerned. Most Thai girls will probably require less financial security (or demands) from their man, but what they don't need less of (Zara or Mango) they'll need more of (build house for parents in Korat, monthly allowance etc). Hell, my ex-Thai fiancee frowned when I bought her a S$200 Guess dress for her birthday! The worst kind of mistake to make is probably over-generalisation when engaging in a discussion about women. But I think it's pretty safe standing on my ground that Thai girls "in the scene" deserve to be categorised a special way, whichever variation of jobs she comes from (coyote girl / singer / prostitute / soapie lady / escort / G-Club girl).

If you love Thais, date a normal Thai girl. That's all I'm saying. Always remember one thing - nobody ever pointed a pistol at their temples forcing them to work the way they do. Many would rather starve to death or work four jobs to feed their families than drink themselves silly or touch different men everyday for a living. Let's face it - they chose this path because they WANTED to. So whoever tells you that they need to pay for their baby's milk powder, revive a dying cow back in Rayang, pay hospitalisation fees for their ailing grandmother, basically any other excuse that translates to "I have no choice" while giving you the sweetest puppy eyes you'll never see on a Singapore girl (which is a HUGE turn-on I'd have to admit), they're tugging at your balls.

We, as men, are not stupid. They DO have a choice. Some of the, really do want to earn as much as possible while they're still physically attractive. Some of them just love to drink and like partying, and having a job that pays them to do that is just bliss. And oh - one of the biggest lies that a working lady can ever tell you (and surprisingly how muddle-headed Singapore men can always fall prey to this is frankly beyond me) is "I prefer non-Thai men".

They always, always, ALWAYS prefer Thai men. The only reason why they're fishing YOU is because you happen to want to throw more money at her than Thai men.

[jklpoi]

Oh my God, i am at risk here....I always fall prey to this same sentence, "I prefer non Thai Man." I always thought that it means Thai Guys are serious butterfly....

But anyway, Bro Justin, good point. I am proud enough to say that i have never ever fall into this kind of KC trap ever since i started going TDs. Its always s_x first, no money issue and go thailand have s_x again. Of course, i pay for her when we go eat, but other than that, no sending of money or anything. That has been my policy ever since i started going TDs.

2 serious relationship with Thai girls, and all of them i enjoy to the max with very little financial sacrifice. Only sacrifice some when i go thailand find her or when i bring her go out eat. Never send money to her family, never send this send that. At the max buy some cheap roadside watch for her brother...cost me less than 50 SGD.
So maybe i am one of the lucky ones and i do feel that i am one of the lucky ones after seeing how many people, my close friend included, falling prey to their scams.

But my 3rd Thai GF is coming incredibly and ridiculously close to breaking my policy and my 10 set of rules...Maybe her GT skill is dammn strong, or my avoid GT skill level down already. Must start to up my skill level again...

[jaychou]

Oh my God, i am at risk here....I always fall prey to this same sentence, "I prefer non Thai Man." I always thought that it means Thai Guys are serious butterfly....

But anyway, Bro Justin, good point. I am proud enough to say that i have never ever fall into this kind of KC trap ever since i started going TDs. Its always s_x first, no money issue and go thailand have s_x again. Of course, i pay for her when we go eat, but other than that, no sending of money or anything. That has been my policy ever since i started going TDs.

2 serious relationship with Thai girls, and all of them i enjoy to the max with very little financial sacrifice. Only sacrifice some when i go thailand find her or when i bring her go out eat. Never send money to her family, never send this send that. At the max buy some cheap roadside watch for her brother...cost me less than 50 SGD.
So maybe i am one of the lucky ones and i do feel that i am one of the lucky ones after seeing how many people, my close friend included, falling prey to their scams.

But my 3rd Thai GF is coming incredibly and ridiculously close to breaking my policy and my 10 set of rules...Maybe her GT skill is dammn strong, or my avoid GT skill level down already. Must start to up my skill level again...

i dont know how true when they say they prefer non-Thai men. I once put aside my brotherhood with my friends and alot of committment down with i was with her. Same, I also went to Thailand and stayed with her for a week. Paid everything for her son, and all the expenses over there.

s_x was great. Both of us had high s_x drive. Perhaps due to her high demand, perhaps she had them when I was not able to go to JB and make out with her due to job commitment. In the end, we broke up and heard many stories ( rumours ) from her colleagues abt she not returning home and only return the next evening in her working clothes, sent by her customers. Even my closest buddy & her gf ( my ex's colleague ) knew abt her cheating ways and kept it from me.

Now i believe when a thai girl is drunk and they confesses, is true. Once we were having s_x, she confessed that she had s_x with many other customers behind my back. The next morning, she only rem the s_x but not the convo we had during it. Sounds ironic to me. I questioned her the next morning but she denied it flat and tried explaining. After the break up, thinking back and listening to the various parties that spoke to me, it's hard not to believe that she did really cheated on me and drunk words are true to more than 70% extent.

Hai, I dont go to Hollywood anymore. A fortune teller told me to avoid women in March. My heart told me to win her back but my brains told me not to. I'll be a laughing stock if i take back someone who repeatedly cheats behind my back. But let's say she isn't a coyote, i jolly well know that she is a keeper. A great mother material and a wife material.

Hai.. too bad we have reached a point of no return.

[jklpoi]

Problem to share with you guys.

Mt TG ask me to buy a new television set for her...say it cost around 200-300 SGD and ask me to wire it to her.

Normally in this kind of circumstances, i wouldnt buy it for her. But i am visiting her in Thailand soon, and i wanted my stay there to be real enjoyable...

So the few possible excuse i can give, are, i have no money this month, boss havent give me money. I buy for you when i go thailand...anymore other excuse i can use?

Just a simple update, i already bed her countless of time, she do treat me to lunch, dinner, taxi ride when i tell her i no money. I stay over her place for free when she is at singapore, other pple have to pay SGD320. I already brought a couple ring and a necklace for her, total damage around SGD120 plus. and yes, I can afford to send the SGD300 over to her as it is well within my means, but the thing is i dont want it to become a habit.

What shld i do?

[KiLrOy]

Tell her when u go th, u will go buy with her. When u are there u can tell if she really needs it or not. 200-300 sgd is not a lot for a tv. a 40in samsung led tv alr 1k sgd.

[MrAte]

yah i agree, if want then when u go there then go and buy with her...

[admin*xposed]

If you love Thais, date a normal Thai girl. That's all I'm saying. Always remember one thing - nobody ever pointed a pistol at their temples forcing them to work the way they do. Many would rather starve to death or work four jobs to feed their families than drink themselves silly or touch different men everyday for a living. Let's face it - they chose this path because they WANTED to. So whoever tells you that they need to pay for their baby's milk powder, revive a dying cow back in Rayang, pay hospitalisation fees for their ailing grandmother, basically any other excuse that translates to "I have no choice" while giving you the sweetest puppy eyes you'll never see on a Singapore girl (which is a HUGE turn-on I'd have to admit), they're tugging at your balls.

wahhhhhhh well said~~~

[wonderzz]

555 wise words guys.

Just got shocked when i realised how many gucci/LV wallets i could have bought if i didnt entered the TD Scene.

All this said, TD is Fun! Sanook Sanook mak mak mak!!!