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Offline Pum Pui

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 11:20:53 AM »
I'm impressed !!!

As many said... Words of Wisdom !!!

From now, reckon I gonna be the baddie and be the Player.. rather to be being Played !!! ~~ Cheers ~~

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2012, 02:37:26 AM »
Justin - you've provided the most sensible and practical advice I've ever read on the forum. I've thought this over many times - "if we will not put up with a local equivalent of a working girl, why are we willing to put up with a Thai working girl"? I wondered if it was fate/destiny/true love or was is really just a sympathetic situation that has tapped on our instinct to protect and provide? I guess the latter.

I've also been thinking about this unique GFE that these Thais gave - what's so alluring? Apart from the foreign culture and exotic features, the lack of realism in the "relationship" is probably what makes the GFE so mysterious and alluring. We lived for the moment (especially when we know that they are not here to stay and our time with them is limited), and it is in human nature that we will cherish only when we have put in a lot of effort. All of these done without really considering what we are getting ourselves into and what we can get out of the relationship... They are hardly going to be there if we go through difficult times.

How many of us could really say that we can communicate with them on a deeper level...? If we are not able to share our thoughts with them on a deeper level, why are we certain that these "relationships" can even work..? Please let us all keep in mind that no matter how 'real' they seem, they do an have agenda. And the agenda hardly has anything to do with true love.. simply because they too cannot communicate with us on a real level..


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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2012, 07:19:32 AM »
He's not a "f__k-face", jaychou, and you should feel happy for yourself instead of drowning in your sorrows and cursing at someone who has "picked up the pieces". Truth be told, Thai girls are nice.. but those who "work the scene" almost certainly are not. Let's just put it this way - a quote I gratefully reproduce from one of the contributors in Stickman Bangkok - "If you will never date a local equivalent of a "working the scene" lady, why would you suddenly go out of your way to put up with a Thai one?

If our brothers here really love Thai culture and Thais in general, date regular Thai girls, those who would rather die poor than get sucked into "working the scene". These are your true "shy, demure, sweet" type girls - not those who willingly peddle drinks for a living. Yes, I used the word "willingly" - because nobody forced hem into a corner or pointed a gun in their throats demanding they become night scene employees. Too many times we've heard them give their ton-heavy worth of excuses why they are doing what they do. I have a water buffalo back in Issan to feed, I have an ailing mother who needs medical help, I have a son or daughter with an unnamed runaway father who needs milk, I just wanted to come to Singapore to experience a different country - these are BS sweet-talking regulars. I have met plenty of uneducated Thai women who would rather work 3 jobs to support their families than get sucked into touching different men every night. Back to the quote again - if a Singaporean working the night scene gave you these excuses, would you take pity on them and try your "prince charming saves damsel in distress" impersonation? First thought would be to run the f__k out of there and look for a regular long-hair dame striding in Orchard Road for a better deal wouldn't it? Why is it so particularly difficult to reproduce that approach on Thais?

One reason and one reason only - Thais' unique GFE experience. Singaporean men can't f__king handle it. Never did, never will. It's the same thing how middle-aged Singaporean men constantly get sucked into China girls and ruin their marriages in the first place - GFE! Handle it like a real man, and you win the war. The most battle-hardened Thai scene players are no pushovers. They know what what exactly is in store, they play the scene, they get out, or even better yet, do a role reversal and make the Thai girl fall in love with THEM. The "right-back-at-you" approach is something only mature men who knows exactly how to play the game can try. I once met an acquaintance in Thailand (he' Singaporean) and we caught up one night in Slim (RCA) just discussing about Thai women, and the stuff he told me really woke me up. He was the one making a Thai girl he met at The Resort (a G-Club) suicidal.. her own mother called him up incessantly to beg him to give her another chance at making the relationship work but when a man says no, it's a no.. he never heard from her again and moved on to bigger boobs and better pussy. All's fair game - and a man has to win ALL the time. That's what he taught me. Until today, I see men losing in this crazy tug-of-war between Singaporean men and Thai working girls.. I've never seen one who has won.

At the end of the day, no men deserve the "did she didn't she" roller-coaster, and all men in this forum deserves someone to love and treasure them in a true and sincere way. At the very least, the women they chose to spend time and emotional effort in must, at the minimum, understand what it takes to be in a relationship, and respect the way it is usually governed. If not, then a man just has to be a man and move on.  No bitching, no crying like a baby about "that f__k-face who stole my pretty baby". It's all a game and men MUST win. 

well said bro. Oh well, he indeed is a f__kface. i've seen him many times. Never bear the sight of him since day 1 i saw him at Hollywood. Haha.

She will be the last working girl I'll ever fall for. I still Thai girls. So much more wonderful than our local ladies. Nevermind if she's poor and slightly uneducated. I rather go for a simple, filial TG than to fall for another working girl. And I'll never pay for anyone's son again. I've done that for my ex's son. Not that stupid anymore.

I do still miss the old times but i know that happy days wont return anymore. It's tough moving on but i'm doing it at a gradually basis. If one day she comes back, my brain says no. But i know what my heart is gonna say and do.

But oh well, i hope that day dont ever come.. since she's gone, dont ever come back.

Oh that f__kface is working at starhub, but i dont know which branch. Hope our paths dont ever cross someday.
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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2012, 04:10:16 AM »
ok.. so we got a talisman from Justin now. burn it, mix the ash into the water and drink. we should be well protected. :p

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2012, 01:48:57 AM »
the tgs know how to touch our hearts, always remind yourself to put minimal feelings into play. always, nothing more than a friend or best, fb.
many times we remind ourselves before we enter the club but once we enter, our heart becomes vulnerable, its inevitable sometimes i have to agree.
but always remind ourselves right after the night or next morning, its just for fun. no feelings. dont wait till after you patronize the girl a few times already then it will be too damn late.
burn in wallet still ok, burn in heart is crazy. might take 1 month or 1 year to recover.
feel free to cheat, but dont get cheated like free- remember.

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 12:27:25 AM »
Interesting views, Justin. Glad to hear you've recovered and doing well in the SG scene. However, there is a BIG MISCONCEPTION that SG girls don't want money. Both SG and TG involve money. You're misleading a lot of people into thinking that SG girls are not materialistic... unless they live in Pulau Ubin all their lives, you will soon find SG girls even more brand conscious than TG.

TG can buy a 400 baht cocktail dress from a roadside stall and wear out to club. SG "must at least Mango or Zara" to meet friends. I was once at a bazaar and saw some reasonable clothes but my SG female friend commented:" Eeeee, only foreigners buy cheap stuff like that". This is from a girl who lives in HDB earning 2.5k a month as an office admin.

Break-up with TG. Wallet suffer but can earn back. Break up with SG girl after marrying, women's charter and lawyers will suck you dry to your last cent paying settlement fees etc. How many young SG girls hang around old men? Go to Attica or any country club on Sunday and you can see.

Just because you and her can converse in English doesnt ensure anything, including better chances. A lot of TG cheat local guys here but dont assume SG are any better. They're more proud, more expensive (in the long run) and worse off in the looks and bed department. 'Equality" means you end up being laughed on STOMP when someone uploads a photo of you carrying her groceries and handbags while she shops.

TG or SG girl. Girls are girls. It's important to know which ones are sincere, but profiling by nationality gets you nowhere. This forum shoulldn't be about qutting TG scene and settling down to SG girl. That's very defeatist and indirectly saying everyone loses in the end. U can be emerge from this scene successfully, if you try hard enough to make your relationship work. Everyone goes through a string of bad girls before finding one that is good to you.

Absolutely, lofty. I'm in complete agreement with most, if not all, of your points.

Where I'm coming from attempts to tackle more of a "working lady" issue than a nationalistic one. Singapore girls ARE materialistic. Thai girls ARE materialistic. I guess as men we're all ass-f__ked as far as their financial expectations are concerned. Most Thai girls will probably require less financial security (or demands) from their man, but what they don't need less of (Zara or Mango) they'll need more of (build house for parents in Korat, monthly allowance etc). Hell, my ex-Thai fiancee frowned when I bought her a S$200 Guess dress for her birthday! The worst kind of mistake to make is probably over-generalisation when engaging in a discussion about women. But I think it's pretty safe standing on my ground that Thai girls "in the scene" deserve to be categorised a special way, whichever variation of jobs she comes from (coyote girl / singer / prostitute / soapie lady / escort / G-Club girl).

If you love Thais, date a normal Thai girl. That's all I'm saying. Always remember one thing - nobody ever pointed a pistol at their temples forcing them to work the way they do. Many would rather starve to death or work four jobs to feed their families than drink themselves silly or touch different men everyday for a living. Let's face it - they chose this path because they WANTED to. So whoever tells you that they need to pay for their baby's milk powder, revive a dying cow back in Rayang, pay hospitalisation fees for their ailing grandmother, basically any other excuse that translates to "I have no choice" while giving you the sweetest puppy eyes you'll never see on a Singapore girl (which is a HUGE turn-on I'd have to admit), they're tugging at your balls.

We, as men, are not stupid. They DO have a choice. Some of the, really do want to earn as much as possible while they're still physically attractive. Some of them just love to drink and like partying, and having a job that pays them to do that is just bliss. And oh - one of the biggest lies that a working lady can ever tell you (and surprisingly how muddle-headed Singapore men can always fall prey to this is frankly beyond me) is "I prefer non-Thai men".

They always, always, ALWAYS prefer Thai men. The only reason why they're fishing YOU is because you happen to want to throw more money at her than Thai men.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 12:34:26 AM by Justin_Teo »

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2012, 10:30:21 PM »
Oh my God, i am at risk here....I always fall prey to this same sentence, "I prefer non Thai Man." I always thought that it means Thai Guys are serious butterfly....

But anyway, Bro Justin, good point. I am proud enough to say that i have never ever fall into this kind of KC trap ever since i started going TDs. Its always s_x first, no money issue and go thailand have s_x again. Of course, i pay for her when we go eat, but other than that, no sending of money or anything. That has been my policy ever since i started going TDs.

2 serious relationship with Thai girls, and all of them i enjoy to the max with very little financial sacrifice. Only sacrifice some when i go thailand find her or when i bring her go out eat. Never send money to her family, never send this send that. At the max buy some cheap roadside watch for her brother...cost me less than 50 SGD.
So maybe i am one of the lucky ones and i do feel that i am one of the lucky ones after seeing how many people, my close friend included, falling prey to their scams.

But my 3rd Thai GF is coming incredibly and ridiculously close to breaking my policy and my 10 set of rules...Maybe her GT skill is dammn strong, or my avoid GT skill level down already. Must start to up my skill level again...

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Re: They're Not Worth Your Heart
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2012, 07:06:12 AM »
Oh my God, i am at risk here....I always fall prey to this same sentence, "I prefer non Thai Man." I always thought that it means Thai Guys are serious butterfly....

But anyway, Bro Justin, good point. I am proud enough to say that i have never ever fall into this kind of KC trap ever since i started going TDs. Its always s_x first, no money issue and go thailand have s_x again. Of course, i pay for her when we go eat, but other than that, no sending of money or anything. That has been my policy ever since i started going TDs.

2 serious relationship with Thai girls, and all of them i enjoy to the max with very little financial sacrifice. Only sacrifice some when i go thailand find her or when i bring her go out eat. Never send money to her family, never send this send that. At the max buy some cheap roadside watch for her brother...cost me less than 50 SGD.
So maybe i am one of the lucky ones and i do feel that i am one of the lucky ones after seeing how many people, my close friend included, falling prey to their scams.

But my 3rd Thai GF is coming incredibly and ridiculously close to breaking my policy and my 10 set of rules...Maybe her GT skill is dammn strong, or my avoid GT skill level down already. Must start to up my skill level again...

i dont know how true when they say they prefer non-Thai men. I once put aside my brotherhood with my friends and alot of committment down with i was with her. Same, I also went to Thailand and stayed with her for a week. Paid everything for her son, and all the expenses over there.

s_x was great. Both of us had high s_x drive. Perhaps due to her high demand, perhaps she had them when I was not able to go to JB and make out with her due to job commitment. In the end, we broke up and heard many stories ( rumours ) from her colleagues abt she not returning home and only return the next evening in her working clothes, sent by her customers. Even my closest buddy & her gf ( my ex's colleague ) knew abt her cheating ways and kept it from me.

Now i believe when a thai girl is drunk and they confesses, is true. Once we were having s_x, she confessed that she had s_x with many other customers behind my back. The next morning, she only rem the s_x but not the convo we had during it. Sounds ironic to me. I questioned her the next morning but she denied it flat and tried explaining. After the break up, thinking back and listening to the various parties that spoke to me, it's hard not to believe that she did really cheated on me and drunk words are true to more than 70% extent.

Hai, I dont go to Hollywood anymore. A fortune teller told me to avoid women in March. My heart told me to win her back but my brains told me not to. I'll be a laughing stock if i take back someone who repeatedly cheats behind my back. But let's say she isn't a coyote, i jolly well know that she is a keeper. A great mother material and a wife material.

Hai.. too bad we have reached a point of no return.
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