First of all,
abercrombiekid, good on you for starting the thread. Can't wait to read the rest of your story! I can empathize with what many of the bros here are saying, and also relate well to the good advice that senior chiongsters like
TD_King,
Suchart,
Vinchaiwut and many others have passed on. Thanks in advance to all of you. Personally, I had the game figured out after spending some good money, but I never was in a state bad enough to have to come here to seek advice.
Well, my adventures started around mid of 2010, when my friend B introed me and a third friend T to the enchanting world of TDs. We, the 3 clowns, would frequently go to one of the famous ones, between the 3 of us finish of at least 1 bottle every night, with maybe 2 nights in a week finishing off 2-3 bottles. Oftentimes, I would report to work early in the morning still drunk, reeking of alcohol.
Of course, we spent tonnes of money on singers and coyotes too, but in a very different manner from most guys here. Somehow, we always tipped the same guy singers that would come to our tables to talk, sing our favourite songs and play games with us. We never paid attention to the chio and popular singers.
My 2 friends were very lucky. Somehow, the first night that these particular 2 ladies turned up in that TD, they came to approach my friends, and have been 100% exclusive teeraks from then on. Both have been in relationships for 3 months now, and there is no doubt about the exclusivity. For B, we are sure because the girl actually lived with him. For T, he would meet the girl EVERY afternoon for a after-work bangbang, before going for dinner and then sending the girl to work, before meeting for an early morning bangbang again. Quite legendary.
Maybe I not so handsome like my friends, so never had such luck. Somehow, always end up with girls that about to go home then come and jio me. The first one actually asked to come to my home on her last night here. We proceeded to have a passionate night (Rather morning, cos by then it was 630) before sending her to the airport (Her check in time was 930). Well, I felt bad at having to break her heart, but I knew that there would be nothing coming out of this, so I ended it with her when she was in Thailand. Sometimes, I really feel bad for doing this, but I know I am incorrigible, and get easily bored with girls.
So, the cycle repeats itself. B and T are effectively married, and so I find another group of madmen to chiong TD with. This time, we end up at another big name TD, and there's this girl that talks to me for 3-4 times. Each time, I don't buy her anything, except the first time when I bought her 2 LD. All this while, I'm not trying too hard, and I don't make declarations of love. Always walk away from her at the end of the night without saying bye. One fine day, she sms me and ask me to pick her up after work. And thus began the current chapter of my life. We're seeing each other nearly every day, and enjoying each other's company. Eventually, I know it will be impossible, because of my line of work, but I just want to have us enjoy ourselves while we're together. Again, I feel bad, but what to do? Maybe bros here will want to scold me for being a lowdown bastard for playing vulnerable thai coyotes.... go ahead.
Now, some tips for the newbies. I wouldn't try to claim that I'm as experienced as the senior bros named above, but I've surely been there and done that too (Except for the falling madly in love part
. My love usually lasts 1 week max).
1.
Bring only the amount of cash that you can afford to lose. Trust me that you will lose it within the night, either opening a bottle or buying LDs or hanging flowers. DO NOT use credit cards. I learnt this the hard way, saw my cc bills balloon, and thankfully had the help of a good brother (T) who loaned me cash to pay the bank sharks.
2.
Spend your money wisely on people who deserve it. You will be rewarded with their loyalty and genuine friendship. I remember one time, I just popped by this particular TD with a young (read: broke) friend. We ordered one jug of whiskey-coke. In this particular TD, I think any order besides a bottle is scorned upon. This singer, upon seeing our empty jug, promptly went to the back, filled it half-up with his own stash, without asking for anything from us. If you are careful about choosing your friends, you will find that there are genuine friendships to be made in these places.
3.
How to choose friends? Same old advice from the old hands. Don't buy them anything a few times. Don't act over-eager to please them or get in their good books. Do they still come back? This is the same as choosing friends in life. This way, you will weed out the fairweather friends/GTs.
On a related note, how to get the girls that are worth getting: Same. Don't be over-eager and try to please them. Must play hard to get. Know that these girls are lavished with tonnes of attention from the hundreds of hungry men in TDs. You want to throw LD or flower? Chinese saying: One Mountain Always Have Another Higher Than It. (haha literal translation). You will not be able to win a girl's heart by throwing financial incentives at her. Unless your surname is Lee or Wee or Ong lah, then you really are the richest in Singapore.
I have always been a little stand-offish with the girls that approach me initially. Buy them maximum of 2 LDs (peanuts in that TD I mentioned), don't talk much to them, see if they come back. Well, if they do then you stand a pretty good chance. If you bought and they snub you or don't spend much time with you, don't bother with them any more. They are just there to dig gold. Move on to the next one. Important thing is to be patient, your luck will come sooner or later. Don't get too hung up on one just cos she's pretty and rubs you a little bit in the right way.
4.
Respect the ladies. By this, I don't mean to say that throw money at them and don't try to bed them, like what some people claim to do. That's foolish. By respecting them, I mean understand their culture and personality, and be kind and treat them well. Do that, and they WILL end up in your bed. For example, when I go TD, I see many customers fooling around and lightly smacking the coyote's head in jest. Do you know that to the Thai Buddhist, the head is the most sacred part of the body? If you did that to a stranger in Thailand, you would probably get hammered.
Another example, the more decent Thai girls (there are many of these working in TDs, they are just here for a quick buck, doesn't mean they are cheap sluts) perceive going to the hotel with a guy they have just gotten to know as very very demeaning, and something that a good Thai girl would NEVER do. My friend's teerak (this was after many many times together) broke down when he drove her to a hotel. I only brought my teerak to a hotel when she herself said she wanted to spend the night together with me. That's why in this forum, we always read of girls breaking down when guys try to put them into a taxi to the hotel. Be very careful about the hotel proposition. It could break your deal. If you have the latitude, try to take her home instead. It's more respectable for them.
5.
Live and let live. No point being consumed by jealousy or mad passion and end up doing stupid things (E.g. getting into fights, spending stupid money and regretting it later when in debt). In this shady, crazy (and absolutely delightful) world that we choose to exist in, there will be many many incidents that will poke you the wrong way. But remember, stay detached and cynical. That's the way to survive. I know because I can imagine the feelings of all those men that my current teerak french me in front of. They buy her drinks, she gives them time and attention, but in the end, I know that without spending a cent, she will be going home with me. Like I said in point 3, just move on. In 99% of cases (of girls who are worth having), all the money you throw at them cannot override their passion and emotions.
On the flipside, I also don't get jealous when my teerak has to spend time with a major customer. Every night, there will be 3-4 customers buying her about 5-10 drinks each. Some even offer her cash to go hotel with them. It's only right that she spends a good amount of time sitting with them and accompanying them. Meanwhile, I'll just sit quietly with my friends, drink my own liquor (and look at other pretty pooying
). You choose to play in this environment, you must abide by the rules. Don't be a stupid twat and go throw glasses on the floor to act tough and all that when your girl is flirting with a customer.
Lastly, I apologize if my "tips" are oft-repeated ones from senior bros. However, it just goes to show that there is a tried and test formula to "winning" in this game. Be sure of what you want, lay out your strategy clearly, and stick to it strictly. Don't let your emotions run wild and spoil your own life and future.
Qualifier: Of course, like so many bros have said, emotions can come into play. True love can be found in these places. I know, because I am a witness to 2 of my friends' loving relationships. To this, I agree with
TD_King. The only 100% true litmus test for the initial stage is whether she ao kan with you. If she's willing to give you her body, you have a chance to bring it further. Of course, check with everyone else that she's not the village bicycle that allows every passerby to ride. Oh, and sorry for the super long post! Long time no talk, suddenly floodgates open. Hope TS don't mind me hijacking! We are here to share after all
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